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Renewing FIR

Postby F20 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:52 am

I am thinking about renewing my lapsed Instructor rating. I know I will have to do a seminar and LST but does the LST have to be taken at an FTO or can it be done at an RTF? Thanks
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Re: Renewing FIR

Postby mark » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:14 pm

Hi F20,

Good idea to renew your rating before the EASA regulation comes into force here. That will make make things a lot more difficult.

As it stands, we are still subject to JAR which says:

(b) If the rating has lapsed, the applicant
shall have within the 12 months preceding the
application:
(1) received refresher training as a
CRI(A) to the satisfaction of the Authority; and
(2) passed as a proficiency check the
relevant part (i.e. ME or SE) of the skill test set
out in Appendix 1 and 2 to JAR–FCL 1.330 &
1.345.


I think the training will have to be taken at an FTO who have approval for Flight Instructor Ratings. That narrows it down to National Flight Centre (http://www.nfc.ie) or Atlantic Flight Centre (http://www.afta.ie). I guess refresher training will come down to experience and how long the rating has lapsed.

Hope this helps.

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Mark
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Re: Renewing FIR

Postby F20 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:36 pm

Thanks Mark, Did you take that from JAR FCL? Is the seminar requirement gone? I looked up JAR FCL 1, maybe an old version, it stated the requirements for seminar and Flight test but nothing about refresher training
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Re: Renewing FIR

Postby mark » Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:56 pm

Hi F20,

Sorry you're right - I was looking at the part on Class Rating Instructors. For anyone else who is interested here is the relevant part:

(a) For revalidation of a FI(A) rating the
holder shall fulfill two of the following three
requirements:
(1) completed at least 100 hours of
flight instruction on aeroplanes as FI, CRI, IRI
or as examiner during the period of validity of
the rating, including at least 30 hours of flight
instruction within the 12 months preceding
the expiry date of the FI rating, 10 hours of
this 30 hours shall be instruction for an IR if
the privileges to instruct for IR are to be
revalidated;
(2) attended a FI refresher seminar
(see AMC FCL 1.355(a)(2)), as approved by
the Authority, within the validity period of the
FI rating;
(3) passed, as a proficiency check,
the skill test set out in Appendices 1 and 2 to
JAR–FCL 1.330 and 1.345 within the 12
months preceding the expiry date of the FI
rating.
(b) For at least each alternate revalidation
of a FI(A) rating the holder shall pass, as a
proficiency check, the skill test set out in
Appendices 1 and 2 to JAR-FCL 1.330 & 1.345
as one of the two requirements to be fulfilled to
comply with JAR-FCL 1.355(a).
(c) If the rating has lapsed, the applicant
shall meet the requirements as set out in (a)(2)
and (a)(3) above within the last 12 months
before renewal.
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Re: Renewing FIR

Postby bumitch » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:11 am

It would be interesting to know how the level of flight test "fails" under the IAA compares to that under other authorities. Could the currency renewal requirement for flight examiners may be a significant contributory factor? (a bit like driver testing of old)
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Re: Renewing FIR

Postby F20 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:00 pm

Has the hours requirement been halved? seen this on a few websites:

http://www.flightwise.ie/training/pilot ... -renewals/
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